Thoughts

@Tim Buhler - I've been thinking about this for a couple of days and trying to come up with the simplest way to explain. Obviously everyone has suggested the 90% weight drill, but I figured you need to know what you're trying to accomplish by doing that drill. The whole idea behind S&T is to keep your spine "orientation" during the swing. We do this with three thing: TILT, TURN, EXTEND.

From you're video, you clearly do this on the backswing. The issue I see is your downswing is 100% TURN. There is no TILT or EXTEND.

Another way to say it is "TUCK HIPS". That's the last two words in Mike Bennett's simplified explanation of the S&T swing. Just google Mike Bennett swing and you should get the perfect idea of what I mean.

Hope it helps. Thanks

Thanks guys again. I am drilling away, mostly just with A mirror for now. I like the trebuchet analogy a lot, can you recommend a video that perhaps Explains hand action in more detail? I’m so used to a slap hinge type release that I feel like I really have to try to keep the “wedge” and I think that is causing lots of tension. noticed too man there’s a big wrist rolling going on. Ugly !! That’ll be a big focus this week.

Hi @Tim Buhler welcome to club!

So, It's hard to tell everything here because your camera was not really set for, "down the line" or for "face on." It would help if the view was more square. But what I do see from these, is something I was doing, and might still be doing after I'm on the course without review. Your head is moving around and you are coming over the top to start your downswing. I also notice your shoulders are going well past 90 degrees. This is where I would, (and did for mine) start with your swing change. In going past 90 degrees, you're going past what would be your natural top of backswing while keeping your swing within the bounds of this system. You're keeping your arms connected but, when you reach your natural stopping point, your body needs to get the extra turn from somewhere. In your case, it appears to me, your lead knee is breaking down and moving away from the target, your hips are also moving away from the target, and "the wall" of the setup position and, you're over extending, moving your head toward the target. You're doing all the things I was doing only, I think you're keeping your arms better connected.

It's a bit encouraging to see someone else making the same moves that are my issues. Lets me know I'm not alone! ...and neither are you!

For now, the only other thing I'll make a note of, is your arms are under a great deal of tension. You can just see all of your muscles flexed. (sun's out, guns out!).

It's great to keep that bent trail arm longer but, you never release it, right through the finish. You're leaving the nitrous in the bottle scro! There is a post hear about the"...arms being dead..." I'm not sure I like that analogy so much as them being loose and tension free. You'll feel your shoulders keeping your armpits squeezed and you'll feels your hands gripping the club, but the rest of the arm should have the same tension as when you're taking a stroll and maybe you're pointing at something. I picture a trebuchet. Where the wooden arm, attached to the pivot is your shoulder to the wrist and the rope is your hands and club shaft.

I think, finding your natural stopping point for the top of backswing and getting that tension out will have you adding some nice consistency and some serious distance!

I hope there is something in all my dribble that can help you and I'm sure Tom will correct anything I've said that is off base.

Keep us posted and we'll help with whatever we're able!

Danny

Thanks @Tom Saguto @johnpfistnerjr for the comments and support. I may be trying to spring before I can walk and will look into the fundamentals a bit deeper!

@Tim Buhler

I'm not qualified to give you an analysis of your swing but what I had noticed off the cuff, anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong, I see too much rotation based on your backswing and how your trail foot ends in the follow through. looks to spin out as if there is no lateral movement. Just my opinion that caught my eye. Submit Tom a swing vid and he can give you his qualified expertise. 👍⛳🏌️‍♂️

Another note: are you rolling your wrists on backswing? Don't do that.

@Tom Saguto

I'm anxious to work on the driver drill you had demonstrated in the recent YT video. Throw that one in the KFC crispy member or driver class. I think this vacation is going to be a great RESET for me when I return. 👍⛳🏌️‍♂️

@Tim Buhler

It took me a little to get the drill down. One thing to make sure your set up is correct. Check grip, ball position, shaft lean (lack of shaft lean caused flipping for me along with swing path. Are you executing an in to out or out to in swing path? Over the top? Chicken wing?) The drill is just impact position with 90% weight forward with a closed alignment to give you the feel how shoulders and arms come through the swing. Also, check shoulder tilt on backswing to downswing. Keep your weight forward. Any deviation coming on the backswing causes many issues as you lose relationship to the ball including fat/thin shots and loss of power (I'm still working on power in my swing) I'd given you a lot of areas to look at based on my Saguto golf training. Give it time if your just learning this SnT system for the first time. Good luck to you, fellow Saguto golfer! 👍⛳🏌️‍♂️

@danny, @Buford T Ogletree, and @johnpfistnerjr - any thoughts for @Tim Buhler?

Tim, success with the 2.8 Drill is dependent upon your having all the foundational elements of Chapter 1 nailed down, as well as all the building block lessons and drills in Chapter 2 leading up to 2.8.

Also, the 90% Weight Forward/Arms Straight Drill should go far towards helping you to ingrain the proper feels. It's not an easy drill, but it is very effective, so be sure to spend sufficient time to properly learn, execute, and master it. You'll know you're doing it properly when impact is consistently crispy, divots are occurring past the ball, and ball flight is a repeatable little push-draw.