Vacation in Florida

I am in Orlando. I was going to go out early this morning but realized I didn’t bring golf shoes either (my wife took stuff out of car before we left).

Going to golf was suddenly going to be really expensive, buying shoes, balls, glove, and renting clubs. As I thought about it, I also realized golf my be more frustrating than fun without my clubs. The idea of different length clubs for every shot makes me sad. :)

We leave early Saturday. Trying to figure out what our plans are…went to water park today. May end up doing Disney or Universal the next couple days…not sure.

Probably the right choice. Going back to conventional clubs may wreck things.

Yeah. It’s a disaster. It would just remind me how much I hated shorter clubs. :) plus, I have my clubs so tweaked for me so that getting standard clubs and even a putter…I use armlock. So…

@jim harvey 100%. I play single length irons and have since 2017. Went from a 14 handicap down to low of 2 last year. I actually like to keep my handicap around 6 so I have a little room in money games. :)

For starting single length, I would advise:

1. Play all clubs center of stance. For me, I do one ball back of center for draw, a ball or two forward for fade.

2. It's ok to choke up on wedges. Making them effectively same as traditional wedges. However, over time the need to do that will disappear. Just need enough range reps to be confident.

3. In your mind, play every shot like you are hitting a 7i. That's the swing you need through the bag.

4. When you go to range before playing, grab a different club at random, but don't take multiple irons. Goal is to get loose, find your ball position and repeat that feel throughout bag.

The beautiful thing with 1 length clubs is you literally take the same swing with every club. If you practice 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, full swing, you will have the ability to hit those shots through the bag.

I know my distances for each swing length through bag. That gives me the ability to look at the line I need to hit and simply select the right club for that without any manipulation whatsoever. Once you get it going, it truthfully is awesome.

Further on the wedges, it's going to be a massive advantage in the long run. Why? You will naturally have faster clubhead speed with a variable length sand wedge because you have a longer lever. That means easy extra speed out of thick rough (without having to swing harder and it also means higher softer wedge flight.

For me, the only time I choke up is when I have a difficult lie with ball above my feet. Ball below feet is once again easier.

Finally, the hardest part of single length clubs is with long irons. You still need to swing a 4i like you are hitting a 7i vs trying to kill it to get the distance.

You will run into a problem on the top end. What append is depending on clubhead speed you can reach a point where your clubs go the same distance. Depending on swing speed, that could be from 4-5 iron or 3-4 iron. With slower swing speed, it could even drop to 5-6 iron. Depending on your swing, that's when I would either modify lofts or switch to single length hybrid.

Anyway, let me know what you are seeing and I can be really prescriptive on best way to finish your set.

1. What is your average score?

2. How far do you carry a 7i? Do you know your club speed/ball speed?

3. What is your driver clubhead speed?

4. Which clubs do you have and what is the composition (3-LW, 5-LW, 3h-LW for example)?

I played my first round with them in league last night. Shot 53 for a 9 hole. Embarrassing I know. Thanks so much for the tips. I really did feel like I was putting the ball to far forward in my stance. I really appreciate the tips

Question is, where were you losing strokes? If you are shooting 50’s…you absolutely have to start with chipping, pitching, putting. You need to be able to pitch a ball to a specific target.

Meaning, you are going to pick a spot to land the ball and then know hat far it will roll out.

For chipping, I pretty much always use my 58 degree wedge. However, I would advise someone else to do things a little different (to make it easier).

For me, I start from behind the ball and I look at the way I need to get the ball to the hole. I pick, High, médium, low flight.

1. Low flight will carry 1/3 distance to hole and roll 2/3.

2. Medium - 1/2 carry, 1/2 roll

3. High - 2/3 carry, 1/3 roll.

That’s my basic rule of thumb. From there, I figure out how terrain will change that and pick shot I want to hit.

I change my swing pattern to hit high/med/low with the 58. But I would advise someone struggling to simply use LW, SW, PW. Same motion with each club will give same results (high, medium, low).

So, take your sw and pick a spot that’s 2/3 carry. That’s where you need to land it. SW, carry half, roll half. pW, carry 1/3, roll 2/3.

This is going to be super simple now. You can literally go through every iron in your bag with the same setup. Chip with it and see what carry vs rollout is.

Choose the club that gets ball on green rolling as soon as possible. That will give you the shortest, easiest shot to hit. You can pretty much just use a putting stroke with the less lofted club and always get it on the green with a reasonable chance to make the putt.

Best part is, once you get good st doing this, it takes pressure off everything else because even if you miss the green, chipping is so easy.

How many 3-putts did you have in league?

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