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BALL CHOICE???

Average swing speed 94 mph with the Driver.Ball Speed 128 mph with Driver.54 years.11 to 13 handicap.Unstable spin from 2000 to 3000 with the 9 Degree Driver and stiff rod (if I play at 10 degrees it increases the spin and lowers my departure distance).What type of ball should I use to gain distance with the Driver?I would like to increase from 230 to 250 to try to play for a few years, before my body declines completely, in category 0 to 9 and those 20 yards I know are the key to staying in that category without having to play PERFECT EVERY LAP.approach and put.

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Russell Hogue, PhD

Aug 26, 2022

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Best thing to do is get a handful of different balls, get a launch monitor and go spend a little time comparing differences. You may well find out the ball that is best for “ideal impact” is different than the ball that generally performs best. If you are hitting 230 yards, then just make sure you are playing the right tees for your length. Also, get on a launch monitor, ignore “total distance” and get a good picture of how far you are carrying each shot.

Russell Hogue, PhD

Jan 22, 2022

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@jlpg33 if you are swinging at 94mph, you could switch to a softer shaft which will automatically give you more clubhead speed. How did you measure 94mph? That speed is wildly inconsistent with your 7iron distances unless the ball is running for miles. That tells me that something might be off in your measurements and if so, it may be far easier to get your stated goals. Let’s just assume that 94mph is what you have to work with. What ball speed are you seeing? This will tell us efficiency of the strike. 1. Maximize ball speed. Your ball speed needs to be 140mph plus (with 94mph club speed that’s all you can get). If club speed increases, you can get a higher ball speed. 2. The ideal spin rate to get maximum distance changes based on ball speed and launch angle. Both the ball, shaft, and dynamic loft will change this. 3. Dynamic loft - ultimately you will need to increase angle of attack (hitting up on ball), while at the same time delofting the club relative to swing. Easy way to think about it is, the greater the difference between angle of attack and launch angle the worse it is. So, you want angle of attack and launch angle to be as close as possible. Finally, to answer your question,

Russell Hogue, PhD

Jan 22, 2022

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Finally, to answer your question about which ball, that will be dictated by the ideal spin rate…

Nocona Colt Abernathy

Apr 25, 2021

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@jlpg33 - There isn’t a legal ball out there that will get you 20 yards with any club but you could try a simple 2 piece ball as it would produce less spin than a tour ball. All the big brands have one and they’re usually cheaper too.

If your swing speed is 94 with a driver, I would expect your ball speed to be around 140, so just make sure you’re actually getting good contact.

Tom Saguto

Apr 26, 2021

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@jlpg33 - Be patient with the process. If you are getting that kind of yardage with the 7 iron then I would expect that as you get more comfortable with the swing and begin to commit it to muscle memory that you will see your driver distance increase. And to be sure, although it may feel like a "shorter" swing, you are creating depth and harnessing the tremendous (and nearly effortless) power source of angular momentum. It is far more efficient than a "shift and lift" type of move!

Nocona Colt Abernathy

Apr 26, 2021

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@jlpg33 - 100% agree with Tom's response about being patient. If you are satisfied with your current ball, I would not change anything. I personally use the Top Flite XL Distance ball. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using a distance ball if you need to; that's why manufacturers make them!

jlpg33

Apr 26, 2021

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@Nocona Colt Abernathy @Tom Saguto

First of all, thanks again for the responses. I am elated to have found this school and this teacher. 8 years ago I fell in love with this sport and have visited important teachers and schools looking for a consistent game. I'm sorry my father didn't put a golf club in my hands as a child, but as a child we only had a rag soccer ball for and I don't think we knew what the word golf meant. Thanks to my son, who has a series of congenital physical disabilities, including a congenital heart disease that allows him to live but oxygenates between 85 and 90, which does not allow him to play sports without getting tired, thanks to him I found golf as I took it to a little school at 5 years old. One day, when he was already 12 years old, he wanted to quit and I asked him if he would continue practicing if we did the class together with a private teacher and he said yes. Like so many other times, my son was my teacher and he guided me to golf, a sport that I acquired out of pleasure, passion and common sense: neither running, nor tennis, nor soccer, would allow me to continue practicing them for the rest of my life. days in this world while my eyes can see and my body can move (I have a 96-year-old neighbor who plays 9 holes every day with his caretaker who brings him the clubs). I fell in love with this sport so much and I tried to perfect myself so much and to set myself a goal to play club tournaments in category 0 to 9, which I visited, as well as several teachers from my city, many schools in the USA. I went to Jim Mc Lean in Doral, also to the school of the great Anikka Sorenstam in Orlando and I even took private classes with the controversial and funny Jimmy Ballard (another ¨revolutionary and different¨ but not as much as Tom) but the reality is with Nobody achieved "consistency" to lower my handicap. Even though I got to 9, I didn't last long, my Driver was too far from the greens to support consistent laps and the cards didn't hold my handicap. And that's where I got, playing between 10 and 13 every month (currently my index is 11.3) but I could never reach my goal. Time passes, I am now 54, I know that I will lose more and more distance but after finding Tom on the web, studying him and starting to apply his techniques, not only was it quick and easy for me to change my swing but I also felt that my blows "sound" like they never sounded in my life. Also, I always had a pronounced draw that was often a boguis, doubles and triples maker hook. Today the hooks have almost disappeared with all the clubs but the truth is that with the Driver, everything is worse than before: shorter, unstable, for the right, for the left, in short, all wrong. Surely, and although I have seen the videos of the subject several times and pay attention to each word and comments, I cannot "tame it". Surely I am doing something wrong and I cannot know what it is. And no one can help me by looking at me when I hit because no friend or teacher in my area understands my new swing (on top of that I always played it with a very open stance, body totally to the right in an exaggerated inverted K and with the tee sooo high to get right up , very opposite to the Saguto Swing no? haha. I will insist a couple of weeks more examining every detail again and if I do not improve, I will record in V1 and I will take a private class with Tom to see if mine has an arrangement with the Driver and I can achieve the dream distance before my gray hair prevents me. that I just entered the adolescence of old age hahaha. Of one thing I'm sure: having started playing big, this swing should have been mine from day one. Because I feel comfortable, I don't try too hard, the ball sounds beautiful to hit and flies well and far, the divots are a constant and my consistency from 200 yards down is much better than before. I know it is a long text, but I understand that experiences are also shared here and I think it is worth sharing mine as well as reading other people's. Because that is what human beings are throughout our lives: a sum of lived experiences and sharing them is how we enrich each other. Greetings and apologies for the length of this text. It will not happen again. I promise. Ha!