Maybe it’s because I think too much about everything, but leaving myself in the rehearsal position leaves me striking the ball more Consistent. Although spectators may think it looks a little unconventional
Sorry for the delay in the response, life has been a bit hectic. I have tried it going back to normal, but to be honest leaving myself in more of the rehearsal position seems to benefit me more. One big thing, again maybe it's my body structure, I don't know, but I find that it makes my shoulders to be more square. When I set up "normal", I am my shoulders are more closed which leads into some over the top or chopping. I'll continue to report more, which I get back into the swing of things... haha see what I did there. Have a great day.
Welcome to the online school and also to this great members forum community, @Paul Slavik!
Don't concern yourself with "spectators" - just let your ball striking speak for itself. Steve Elkington preset his hips and straightened his trail leg in his setup when he was learning S&T...and he even played tour events doing that. Based on this, I'd say it's absolutely acceptable!
Even though I originally created this lesson for seniors and other players with limited mobility, anyone can do it, and it is very much along the lines of what you are asking about. Please have a look and see if you agree.
We look forward to hearing from you regularly here in the forum!
@Paul Slavik - Yes, the distance will come as you grow more comfortable and confident with your swing. Also, there's no need - and oftentimes minimal (if any) benefit - to hurry through the curriculum. Along these lines, here's some preliminary advice to help you along on your journey to the Land of Ball Striking Bliss:
1) Regardless of a member's skill level, this swing necessitates a complete reboot for someone transitioning from a shift & lift swing (which is typically the case), and therefore it is imperative that one take sufficient time to ensure that the fundamental components are mastered. From the ground up there is nothing superfluous in the Stack & Tilt swing - in other words, everything with a purpose, and a purpose for everything. (For example, contrary to shift & lift where you may be taught to keep your trail foot perpendicular to the target line as a means of "creating resistance" in your trail side, in S&T we flare both feet out 10-20 degrees in order to facilitate a free flowing, inclined hip and shoulder turn.) I cannot emphasize this enough, as frustrations predominantly occur when students jump ahead in the curriculum without properly dedicating themselves to the foundational base upon which our consistently repeatable, powerful, low maintenance swing must be built. Chapter 1 of the Golf Swing Simplified program (GSS) and Part I of Get Out & Go Play (GOGP) both address this.
2a) GSS: One of the many great things about this swing is that you can achieve solid ball striking even at the most basic levels. This is why I oftentimes will suggest that students park themselves on Chapter 2 of the GSS course for an extended period of time after locking down Chapter 1's foundational elements. Chapter 2 reinforces the body motions and the weight-forward component, and it culminates with what I call "The Best Golf Swing Practice Drill of All Time". Work yourself sequentially and gradually through the chapter, and then commit yourself to that drill in Lesson 2.8. Learn it. Practice it. Master it. You can even use this partially abbreviated swing on the course and play quite well with it as it will provide plenty of distance. (It actually is the full swing minus just a couple of power accumulators.) Once you've got that down, you will be well prepared to move forward in the curriculum and well on your way towards taking ownership of YOUR swing!
2b) GOGP: This quick-start program is exactly as it sounds - it is designed to fast-track you out onto the course so you can have fun - and success - playing as you learn! Should you choose this path, everything in #1 above still applies, and as implied above in 2a you will still want to work through it sequentially and gradually, mastering each lesson before moving ahead to the next one. In this program, Drill #5 - The Flying Wedge is the one you'll want to park yourself on and nail down.
3) Also, as you progress always keep in mind the V1 Swing Video Analysis service, an effective and inexpensive service that I highly recommend to everyone in the school. I liken it to bringing your swing into the shop for a tune-up or minor repair. Scheduling one on a quarterly basis for preventive maintenance will do wonders for keeping things humming along nicely, and it's also a great tool for pinpointing and resolving any issues that arise. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis halfway down this page on the Saguto.Golf site.
@Tom Saguto thanks so much. The golf league starts in 3 weeks, no pressure. I will work on things and I’ll give the V1 thing some thought. More then Reasonable cost wise.
Sorry for the delay in the response, life has been a bit hectic. I have tried it going back to normal, but to be honest leaving myself in more of the rehearsal position seems to benefit me more. One big thing, again maybe it's my body structure, I don't know, but I find that it makes my shoulders to be more square. When I set up "normal", I am my shoulders are more closed which leads into some over the top or chopping. I'll continue to report more, which I get back into the swing of things... haha see what I did there. Have a great day.
Welcome to the online school and also to this great members forum community, @Paul Slavik!
Don't concern yourself with "spectators" - just let your ball striking speak for itself. Steve Elkington preset his hips and straightened his trail leg in his setup when he was learning S&T...and he even played tour events doing that. Based on this, I'd say it's absolutely acceptable!
Even though I originally created this lesson for seniors and other players with limited mobility, anyone can do it, and it is very much along the lines of what you are asking about. Please have a look and see if you agree.
We look forward to hearing from you regularly here in the forum!
TS