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Closing face too much

Hey all!

Been loving the Saguto swing so far and have gone down from a 100 to about 93 as average score. Lately the biggest issue is i’m closing the face too much at impact. My in to out is around 3-5 degrees but my face angle is around 10-15! So way over drawing slicing. Any drills/tips to help get me back on track? This is mostly with driver and shrinks a bit as the clubs get shorter naturally.

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12 Comments

Russell Hogue, PhD

Sep 25, 2022

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@katanas confused about part of your post. You say you are over drawing or over slicing with an in-to-out path and a closed club face: That doesn’t compute.

Can you post a video of your swing?

You control clubface through the strength of your grip Or through your release pattern. Once I see your swing, should be easy to diagnose.

btw - when you provide swing path and clubface data, what were you using to capture that info?

thomas.linehan

Sep 22, 2022

One more thing. Are you rolling your wrist? At one time I would keep my wrist flat but on the down swing I rolled. Club closed.

thomas.linehan

Sep 22, 2022

Out of the blue I had the same problem. At 1st I thought that I was not keeping a flat wrist at the top. When that didn't cure it all I adjusted my grip and everything was cured. If you're on a driving range play around with both so you can see what happens.

Katanas n' KFC

Sep 22, 2022

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Awesome will do. I thought my grip was pretty neutral/weak to start but ima push it some more.

Tom Saguto

Sep 22, 2022

Hi @Katanas n' KFC - I would absolutely begin with @nkorfhage's suggestion regarding your grip prior to getting into any type of swing intervention. You may be interested in this YT episode in which I speak of the tendencies associated with an overly strong grip. Beyond that, the Flying Wedge Drill may help you gain control of your face angle at impact, especially if there is some flipping or rolling of the hands occurring through the zone.

I'm very glad to learn of your progress. Keep up the great work!!

Tom Saguto

Sep 24, 2022

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Awesome job with the FW! Keep up the great work!!

Katanas n' KFC

Oct 07, 2022

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Finally figured it out! It was trail foot banking/raising. As a self preservation technique from when i dislocated my ankle I always kept my right foot planted through downswin/follow through. Hard to explain the feeling but onstead of releasing the club i would have to suck it in to my body closing the face too much since my back leg was so planted. Had a different coach last lesson at Golftec (started before saguto school) and they noticed this. I asked if i should lift or bank and they said it didn’t matter. Since i’m have been watching your videos I chose the bank and after a few awkward range sessions it finally clicked! Played a round yesterday and had my playing partner look out for it. Sure enough when I banked and lifted my trail foot all my shots were so clean and most importantly straight! Best round of my life, stuck 3 approach shots within 10 feet and hit more fairways than i ever have! So stoked to keep going through your lessons.

Tom Saguto

Oct 07, 2022

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AWESOME!!! Congrats on your new personal best round!!!

Actually, it does makes a significant difference, and you did well to chose the banking option as that keeps the hips moving laterally through impact as they should. Lifting the trail foot heel prematurely would likely cause the hips to spin out and reroute the path across the ball.

Enjoy a virtual SG Golden Ball Award for not just figuring out your issue, but absolutely nailing the solution and putting it into play so quickly and effectively!!

nkorfhage

Sep 22, 2022

Make sure your grip is "neutral" with both Vs pointing at your trail shoulder. I've noticed that players with a "strong" grip tend to have the trail hand V pointing away from their trail shoulder and then end up closing the clubface at impact. For reference, 1.2a THE GRIP - The Importance of Gripping the Club Properly | SagutoG