I was a 12-15 handicap when I made the change to one length irons.
At the time of writing this review, I game Cobra Forged Tec One length irons (4-GW, Cobra MIM one length SW and LW - I also have a cobra one length hybrid and a one length utility 3i which rotate into the bag depending on the course) and am now 4 handicap.
I started with the F7, first generation Cobra irons. I upgraded to F8’s, then F9’s, and finally the Cobra Forged Tec player irons.
In the first generation irons, distances were right. From the very beginning a 3-4 iron travelled the right distance as does the SW or LW.
However, with each passing generation of club the ball flight has gotten better. in the first generation clubs the SW would go crazy high and the 4i very low. This resulted in the correct distances but a flight that didn’t match my traditional clubs.
For the last few generations, F8, F9, Forged Tec, that problem was eliminated and the ball flies the way you expect to see a 3i fly or the way you will see a LW fly. In short, it’s awesome.
Generally, I watch reviews from players who have not actually gamed one length clubs. As a result, their reviews are full of erroneous thought and terrible feedback.
SnT is predicated on being able to hit the ground in the same spot every time. However, when you play clubs that are different lengths, this means that the distance from the ball, the arc the club swings on, the length of the lever result in different timing, slightly different angles, etc. This is true for every club in the bag.
As a result of having different length clubs, that means in practice you had better hit each Club 100 times otherwise your proficiency is different.
This is the beauty of one length clubs. Your club selection changes trajectory and distance, but everything else is the same. Same stance width, same distance from ball, same ball position, same swing tempo/timing. You practice one club, one swing and you practiced every club. That is, a solid strike is a solid strike regardless of club.
Applied to SnT, I can’t really imagine a better way to play the game. You want the grid to work for you, simplify it by hitting the same shot every time.
It‘s funny, most good players freak out about scoring clubs being longer than what they are used to. However, in reality, one length wedges Provide more shot versatility. The wedges provide more clubhead speed with ease because the lever is longer. That means it’s easier to get through thick rough. It’s easier to hit high shots. On the other hand, there is no reason you can’t choke up to make wedges play same length as short wedges for touch shots.
The bigger problem actually comes with long irons. Without proper club speed getting the right distance on a 4i, as an example, can be more challenging. For a good player there is 0 difference. I had a scratch golfer going back and forth hitting his 3, 4, 5 irons today compared to my one length 3, 4, 5 irons and he 100% hit the one length clubs more accurately and gave up zero distance.
For golfers that aren’t as good, you may give up some for “max distance” but average distance will be longer because You will find center of face more often. Still, depending on your game, this is where the 3, 4 iron May be substituted for a one length 3, 4 hybrid.
I can’t imagine a better club choice for snt golfers looking for consistency.
@Tom Saguto I am going to meet with the cobra rep from my club this week. I might be able to work out a saguto golf discount for people on the forum if that is ok with you? Happy to check.
Hi @Russell Hogue, PhD.
I know it's a case of how long is a piece of string, but just had my first lesson with the pro at my new club and he was amazed that I was hitting the 7 iron 190yds. As a novice of 57 years old what should be the average distance?
@Brandon Wall has started the change... Anyone else giving it a try?
I can add to this the process you should go through to make it click. There is no better system than snt to make one length irons a no-brainer.
I would recommend for anyone considering this path to consider your clubhouse speed before buying your first set. Your clubbed speed will dictate how high you can go with lower lifted clubs before you will run into a gapping issue.
Basically, since clubs are shorter, the laws of physics dictate how much loft and spin you need to make sure gapping is appropriate. The slower you saying the sooner you have to swith to a different type of low lofted club.
I can explain in detail of anyone is interested in going down this path.
Have just joined the site and am intrigued by this as never heard of one length iron before , but makes sense using the SnT method. Do all the top brands make these clubs and what particular iron is the one length based on?
@Russell Hogue, PhD Thank you Russell for ur expert advice. One-length clubs seems like a good option.
I just started playing OL Irons this year( plan is to go with the cobra ltdx, unless they finally come out with the forge ones with the same loft as the ltdx.) Is there any tips you can give someone that is learning this new swing style while using one length?
Thanks Gentlemen, explains it all.
I shot -1 yesterday when I took a customer golfing (played the forward tees at about 6200 yards). There is zero chance I would have ever gotten to this point if I had a different swing with every club in the bag. However, the bigger testament of one length clubs is the shitty round I played today. Why? It was an off day. I was out of sequence all day. With variable length clubs trying to find a feel is 10x tougher because of the changes to setup on every swing. With one length clubs, I just needed to find one feel to get ever iron in the bag to play reasonably. I shot 79 and truthfully, it was a terrible day and easily could have been an 89 the way I was swinging. One major advantage of one length irons is, on a bad day you only need to find a feel and it works on every iron in the bag. Take those off days and salvage a round by having the exact same setup on every shot. For golfers who aren’t great, average golfers that can struggle with contact…my bet is that switching to one length clubs would take 5 strokes off their average round easier than about anything else they could do.
Fabulous post, @Russell Hogue, PhD!! I'll go ahead and pin it to draw more attention to it.
No problem with the SG discount.
Thanks!
Tom