Golf, Life and the Pursuit of Perfection

Great stuff, @Buford T Ogletree - A true testimonial to your embracing the process with dedication and determination!!

This is indeed a great community y'all are building here, and I really hope you can and do figure out a way to get together at some point. As someone previously suggested, a golf week in Myrtle Beach or some other reasonably priced destination would provide a great opportunity.

Yep, I tend to curtail my backswing too. I think it comes from hitting the ball well during shorter swing drills, so on the course, my brain wants to hit that controlled, solid feeling shot.

I know my backswing is too short on the course when the ball flight starts dropping on irons. On the range, before playing I hit all 9 irons (or 8 iron). I start with very short shots then all the way to 30 or so full tilted, spine stretched, right leg straight swings...super exaggerated as far as I can turn, but I don't try to swing hard...more of a stretch. Those shots are by far the highest shots. Also, this helps stretch the body parts required to make a full turn, which makes a 3/4 turn feel easy. On the course, I think "full tilt poker" shot. I don't need to take the club back much farther than 3/4 to obtain plenty of power. The other trick is to get the hips moving towards the target on the downswing because if I don't, I lose 10 or so yards and get some nasty near hooks. I want to feel like my right pocket is passing the ball on the downswing.

As a side note the farther I turn back the more my hips slide/engage in the downswing. I think it's because I've built up torque in my backswing rotation so my body naturally wants to unleash with my lower body first.

Nice visualization here.

# GLM - 🎯

How did you play in the tourney?

@GolfLivesMatter between the 4 of us on 4 man scramble, we couldn't buy a birdie. We were 4 over. Lots of fun for a good cause helping a friend, who had passed, with his family. His motto everytime he sends golfers out on the course when he was the pro shop manager:

"Hey, have fun out there!"

Oh, won some cash, too! As far as my game, less to be desired but luckily, it came to having a teammate telling me I'm wasn't hitting with a full backswing. Well, that'll explain why I was hitting them short! Nothing like hitting a 7 iron 135 yards. HA! 👍⛳🏌️‍♂️

Great stuff, @thomas.linehan & @GolfLivesMatter! Consider also what Jack Nicklaus - who would probably never be accused of being S&T - said about weight shift: "I don't believe in a lateral shift. Of course not. I believe in staying on the ball." Asked what he thinks about teachers who advocate a weight shift, he answers, "They don't know how to play."

@Tom Saguto Interesting about Jack because another guy on the range said Hogan was on his trail foot at the top. I said while he might have initially shifted to his trail foot on the takeaway, his weight was clearly on his left side given his nearly straight right knee. He still disagreed. So I asked him to watch my swing. I put about 80% of my weight on my lead foot and swung the club. He said "your weight moved to the trail foot". So I guess people see what they want to see, or the arms and club traveling back create the illusion of a rightward weight shift.

While Jack's left heel definitely lifted off the ground on his driver, there's no doubt he was stacked over the low point of his swing for the driver, which in this pic would have been about 3 or so balls behind the teed ball. His ball position was forward on the driver (grid), Plus, his butt had already shifted towards the target which pre-set his weight to land hard on his left side. So he was correct, he didn't move off the ball, or maybe he also meant the low point of his swing? People who tried to mimic his swing had far too much weight on their trail foot which caused millions of folks to play terrible golf.

@GolfLivesMatter "So I guess people see what they want to see..." - You are absolutely correct, just as they don't see what they don't want to see - especially when it comes to any evidence of Stack and Tilt!!..........

@Jerry Z adding the mashed potatoes!

Ah yes, @Jerry Z... Yet 11 years later, due to much resistance and propaganda spewed forth by the "mainstream", S&T remains the dark side of golf instruction. Evil swing sorcery. The cult that still must quietly, surreptitiously gather lost swings from the vast purgatorial abyss of failed "conventional" instruction and lead them to the way and the truth of a method rooted in the unchanging principles of physics and geometry. It creates heinously horrifying creatures of repeatability, predictable ball flight, and effortless power, and like a hideous and unstoppable amoeba it slowly, steadily consumes the golfing globe under the radar. Resistance is futile; they will be assimilated. Mwahahaha.....Mwahahahaha..... 🤣

@Tom Saguto They're gonna burn you at the stake in Augusta!

I got a 4:07pm tee time and I'm hyped. 3rd day in a row. Tom thanks for sharing your talents with the world brother!

Yes indeed, @johnpfistnerjr! Great guy!!

@Tom Saguto Awhile ago, at one point, I was going to set up a personal lesson with him on the driver. He has excellent training techniques, too. He teaches more of the conventional swing, if I recall. I pretty much halted on picking up other instructors since I started Sagutogolf. I am familiar with Eric Cogorno. I didn't want to add confusion or second guessing my golf swing. I know Jess Frank teaches very close to your S&T methods and you did cool vid camp with him in Florida.

@johnpfistnerjr once I found Saguto golf, and would study other instruction, it would mess me up, good. So glad I found him as a new golfer.

The FEELS people. The feels.

@Jerry Z 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!

@Jerry Z - This is classic. I'm still ROTFL!!...............

@Jerry Z Holy Wrath of God! That's funny! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

A Friend from church moved onto a golf course in Prescott i wonder if this is it?

@Jerry Z - Looks like it's a far cry from those "mean streets of Chicago" where you cut your teeth... Well done!!

@timmos1 There are a few places in town. Antelope Hills, Prescott C&C, Stoneridge, Hassayampa, and Quailwood come to mind.

They don't mess around when it comes to golfing in Prescott. I love it.

Stay Crispy my friends!