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need some advice

When I am playing golf i hit a baby fade with 7-wedge and a fade with lower irons. My driver is usually a fade or a cut but some pulls and slices. WhenI have been going to the range is I drop my hands i start hitting draws with irons, with driver its straight draw or baby fade. If my hands drop a little to far ( hard to tell difference I hit a big hook. While hitting the draw I close my strance and close left shoulders and aim right and it draw back.

When I was on the course last time I tried this and couldnt draw the ball so my shots where dead straight right as that is how i was setting up. I dont know if pressure or swinging harder etc. Not a good way to shoot a good score.

I am normally a low to mid 90's but this year its low to mid 80's with god awful putting hitting my fade. Should I continue with the fade since having good luck or should I continue to work on getting the draw. It works on range but not on course so far. Our season usually ends late september but may get an October game but ball doesnt have that nice July weather carry or feel

6 comments

6 Comments

jscott5150

Aug 11, 2021

Thanks

jscott5150

Aug 11, 2021

Thanks it’s hard to follow all the rules as I have chicken wing and have hard time keeping arms really clise together in backswing . i tried the smart ball and can not even get arms to waiste hifh keeping ball between firearms near elbow . I have a barrell chest but your videos help with the basics of tilt

Tom Saguto

Aug 11, 2021

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@jscott5150 - Assuming you have mastered the foundational elements of the setup, have a look at Part II of the Get Out and Go Play program. I recommend going through it from the beginning, but you'll see that the second lesson addresses the importance of keeping the elbows close together, and there's also a 90% Weight Forward/Arms Straight Drill that can help in this regard.

Also, taking into account physical differences, "elbows together" could mean a gap of 4 inches for one golfer and 12 inches for another. The Smart Ball may be too small for you, so instead try squeezing a balloon or a bit larger ball between your arms. The keys is that you get the elbows as close together as you can (without adding tension) and then maintain that same distance between them throughout the swing.

Additionally, the Tee Drill below from the S&T book may help you a bit with this.

jscott5150

Aug 10, 2021

I had to move ball back slightly Tom for crispy contact . I close my stance as I’m 6’3” and about 250 so the close stance gives me a little extra room to get to club back on longer clubs .

ps the draw is such a nicer shot to watch

Tom Saguto

Aug 10, 2021

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I agree about the desirable draw shot shape, but crispy fades are certainly fine and highly playable. Are you flaring your trail foot out to facilitate a full hip and shoulder turn? Also, it's important to note that by taking the hands in deep with this swing, it's not necessary to get to "parallel", nor is it recommended to try to do so as something is likely to break down in the process and wreck the swing. Have a look at Tony Finau and Jon Rahm - they're nowhere near parallel and they both bomb it.

Tom Saguto

Aug 10, 2021

@jscott5150 - If you are satisfied with the quality of your ball striking and don't mind a controllable fade flight, then is there an issue? Plenty of great players play a fade. Would it be beneficial to learn how to hit a draw when needed? Sure. But there's nothing wrong with a fade being your stock shot shape, especially if you're scoring well and enjoying the game.

On a side note, have you had a look at the Shot Shaping course, and if so do you have an understanding of the Grid? You'll notice that there's no need to close your stance or your shoulders if you have a good downswing path and are properly utilizing the Grid.

Just my thoughts...