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Similar distance with middle irons

Since adopting the stack and tilt swing I find that my 6i, 7i and 8i all carry the same distance (around 135-140 yards). Is this a common issue when starting the change to stack and tilt? I'm only about 35% through the simplified swing program at the moment.

Thanks

Allan.

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allanemily5

Oct 21, 2022

Thank you Ronald, I will check out the long iron lessons. I've sort of kept to the order given in the online school to try not get ahead of my self. I have videoed myself and I'm not having enough extension in my back swing which is lowering my head right. I'm tilting and turning only and most probably trapping myself without extension. Playing 9 holes after work today so will keep extension while tilting my swing thought for this round.

Tom Saguto

Oct 21, 2022

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@allanemily5 - This is not at all uncommon. @Ronald Burkholder has offered some excellent advice, and along with several others - myself included - he is a strong proponent of parking oneself on the Drill 2.8 swing once a golfer reaches that point in the curriculum. This will ingrain the proper motions independent of club selection, can be used throughout the bag, and provides plenty of power to play the course. (Ronald shot five consecutive rounds in the 70's using only 2.8, and he keeps it in his back pocket as a "default" swing that he can dial up on command whenever things feel a bit off during play.)

In addition to that, one other piece of advice with regard to longer clubs. We tend to feel that we need to swing harder to hit longer irons and woods, and this can conjure up the swing-wrecking "hit" instinct. If we are victim to this common affliction, then we need to change our mindset and consider the clubs in our bag to be tools with specifically assigned duties that are carried out with the same motion. For example, your toolbox includes wrenches of varying sizes, yet the technique and force involved in tightening a 1/2" nut is no different from that of a 5/8" nut. The length of the club shaft and the loft of the clubhead are pre-designed to provide for a particular ball flight and carry distance if we simply allow them to do their job. Nothing changes aside from the minor setup adjustments as we migrate from short to long clubs. Food for thought....

allanemily5

Oct 21, 2022

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Thanks Tom, I will have a look for the Drill 2.8 swing later. I'm playing in 2 hours and for the first time I will be adopting the stack and tilt swing the entire round, instead of reverting back to old swing when things don't go well as it's comfortable.

Ronald Burkholder

Oct 21, 2022

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@allanemily5 this is not the case with me. At least not when comparing equally crispy strikes with each iron. I personally struggle with the 5-7 irons compared to the short irons. But when I do hit the longer irons correctly I get an appropriate distance gap with them.

So, my advice is to make sure you are executing the swing correctly. I find I have two errors with the longer irons. I lose the flying wedge prior to impact or I come down too steeply and smother hook it. The loss of the flying wedge is, I think, caused my the additional length of the longer iron. It is harder for me to hold that flexed trail wrist due the inertia of the club head being farther away from the wrist. The result is a functional flip and weak distance. The smother hook, I think, is a result of having the ball to far back in my stance where it is easier to strike the ball before I lose the flying wedge.

I recommend reviewing Tom’s lessons in long irons and hybrids.

Good luck.