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The Grid and The Driver

Just watched the grid videos. Wow! So simple I can't believe it! My questions is this. With driver, we normally have the ball more forward due to the longer club, etc.. Would one use the same grid principles to guarantee a draw/fade in the same way with driver as you do with irons? I am probably overthinking it, but I did notice the other day on the range that I was still hitting some cuts and/or fades with driver. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks in advance!

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Tom Saguto

Jan 05, 2023

@coachman529 - The Grid absolutely applies to the entire bag including the driver. The stock ball position with the driver is even with the inside of the lead heel. The hand position remains the same as with every club - even with the inside of the lead thigh. This still presets a slight amount of forward shaft lean with the driver, and the "zero point" of the swing - even with the lead shoulder - remains unchanged. We set up with slightly more weight forward with the longer clubs - 60% rather than 55%- to compensate for the more forward ball position. As long as we keep the weight properly moving forward from the top - which is accomplished by keeping the hips moving laterally targetward while the upper torso remains centered - the club will approach the ball from the inside and the Grid's push-draw flight plan will be imparted on the ball.

Tom Saguto

Jan 05, 2023

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My pleasure!! It is quite common for success with the longer clubs - particularly the driver - to lag behind a bit, especially for golfers who are just not quite accustomed to having that much forward drive with the lower body and/or who have erroneously been taught to try to "hit up on the ball" with the driver.

Keep up the great work; the big dawg will come around for you, and once it does you'll be bombing it!

GolfLivesMatter

Jan 06, 2023

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So if someone sets up with the driver but without the forward shaft lean would that promote a fade? I guess my question is does the amount of lean (or not) offset ball placement on the grid. For example, if a ball for a 7i is played more back in the grid to promote a draw, but the shaft is not leaned forward, then would the lack of shaft lean offset the likelihood of a draw?

Tom Saguto

Jan 06, 2023

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Hand position relative to ball position is an essential element of the Grid. They don't offset each other; they work in tandem to assign the flight plan to the ball. So if you wanted to hit a big pull-fade with the Grid, then you'd move the hands back and the ball position forward. For a big push-draw, we would preset more forward shaft lean by nudging the ball position back and placing a little more weight forward. You can also push the hands forward a little bit from their stock position, but I wouldn't suggest setting them more forward than the lead shoulder line.