Tom, I wasn't sure which category to ask this question since it is related to both the back and downswing. In one of your lessons (I think it was in the power distance section) you had mentioned pronation and supination of the forearms. You had emphasized this is something we don't need to think about (Last thing is to acquire more swing thoughts, right?). Pronation and supination occurs 'naturally' in the golf swing. In understanding, the momentum of the club in the golf swing 'circle/arc' will automatically generate pronation (Provided there is no rolling on the takeaway) on the backswing and supination on the downswing? This is where I was taught in the conventional/traditional swing of rotating or rolling of the arms and hands over (For more power? Yeah, power of that duck hook into the woods! 🤔) I do know what I was taught is a big NO NO in the golf swing. (Definately a swing/power killer!) It took me some time to get over that. Just something I took notice in my round today.
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@johnpfistnerjr - Indeed, it is such notions that have led countless amateur golfers to suck the club to the inside on the takeaway (reference "crossing streams" in this YT video), roll/flip it through impact as talked about here and in other lesson videos, and scratch their heads at the ridiculously inconsistent results rather than having any chance of approaching scratch golf. Suffice to say that a good grip, properly maintained connection points, and correctly executed swing motions that are not forced or manipulated will allow the pronation and supination to occur on autopilot.
Watch Mike Bennett stripe one ball after another in this video. He's pronating and supinating for sure, but how much of that looks like it's contrived as opposed to just happening on its own?