Hey Saguto Golfers, Joe here.
I was watching this slo mo swing of Victor Hovland, and I noticed a lot of similarities in what we learn, but also a lot of major differences.
my thoughts were that this just seems so difficult.. maybe it helps to get more distance or something? do you guys notice how vertical he brings the club back, and how much emphasis he puts on shallowing the club and bowing the wrist at the start of the down swing?
I’m fully bought in on the stack and tilt swing. I love how simple and consistent it is.. yet at the same time you have to respect it and spend time learning it just like anything else. I guess what I’m wondering is, coming from a guy that knows nothing but the beginnings of a stack and tilt swing, what‘s the pros of having a swing lIke Hovland? purely out of curiosity.. there’s gotta be some benefits to it since you see a lot of Pros doing it. Also what are some ways that the S&T/Tom’s instruction prevails?
what do you guys and gals think?
Your mysterious double post certainly proves the point!
You can either simply put the already existing natural laws to work for you, or you can twist, morph, torque, contrive, and otherwise mess with the principles of physics and geometry in an effort to better suit you, all the while recognizing that at the point of impact those pre-existing laws are all that matter to the ball.
@Tom Saguto Awesome response. Thank you! That video you linked me to was a great breakdown. I think there are going to be a lot more tour players using 97, 99, or 100% of it in the future. To be honest, not only does this golf swing hit it crispy.. but it looks crispy too. When I saw this video of Hovland I have to admit I felt a little bit of disgust at the lifting of the arms. You’re rubbing off on me Tom!
@joey puvel - Great question. My answer:
1) What @rcissell56 said.
2) Have a look at this YT channel episode. It features Justin Thomas' swing but essentially covers the same topic.
3) An alternative question to ask would be – how many PGA Tour major championship winners TILTED, TURNED, and EXTENDED in the golf swing? The answer is all of them! Stack and Tilt is a model of the golf swing based on data from the best golf ball strikers. For this reason, someone can be embracing key Stack and Tilt elements without being aware of it. This is because there are basic requirements that must be met to hit a golf ball consistently on the center of the clubface. There are also components necessary to add power to the golf swing without sacrificing accuracy. Stack and Tilt determined, based on a study of the best golfers of all time, that they all had 3 things in common (the 3 main golf fundamentals): 1. Hit the ground in the same spot every time (consistent crispy contact) 2. Have enough power to play the golf course well (POWER) 3. Be able to have a predictable curve (accuracy). A player MUST be able to do those 3 things to be good at golf. Stack and Tilt is a system for accomplishing these fundamentals incredibly well! As far as tour players using 100% of it, 99% of it, 97% of it, or 78% of it, it doesn't really matter because they're ALL doing it to some extent. Those 3 fundamentals never change!
4) No need to drop it in the slot if you're already there!
I am by no means an expert, but I think that the Stack and Tilt method is easier to learn and maintain than some of the methods that the pros use. It also takes less reliance on timing, eye-hand coordination, natural talent, strength and practice time. All things that the top level pros have in abundance.