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S&T Newbie Baseline

The word "baseline" might be a little misleading, as I have studied Tom's theory in the past, and have been working on it a lot over the past week, but for the most part, this setup and moves are new to me. I'm in my house as you can see, so not really taking a full swing, but mainly wanted some opinions on my basic set up and motions... and any specific drill recommendations are also greatly appreciated. Currently a 25 handicap, most common miss is a snap hook, and even though I tried to swing like a Saguto golfer yesterday, I still had a couple(snap hooks).. and I also had a few hosel rockets yesterday, which never occurred with my old swing... I am most definitely not saying that S&T made me shank but curious if anyone else had that issue early on when transitioning to this method.

Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks!

5 comments

5 Comments

Julian

Apr 02, 2022

Thanks so much for the info Gerry. I have to admit, I've been focusing a lot on my lower body positions, so it's not surprising to hear my lower body(specifically knees) are doing something odd.

Thanks again! Much appreciated.

Tom Saguto

Apr 04, 2022

Replying to

@Julian - Without getting into an a swing analysis here, I just want to piggyback off of @Gerry_Lager's reply and suggest that you check your setup. You need to have both feet flared out approximately 20 degrees, with the knees similarly angled outward. This orientation enables the knees and legs to work properly, and it provides for an unrestricted 45 degrees of tilted hip turn, at which point we only need to add another 45 degrees of shoulder turn for a full 90 degrees.

Please spend the appropriate time in Chapter 1 mastering the setup. I cannot emphasize this enough, as frustrations predominantly occur when a student jumps ahead in the curriculum without properly dedicating himself/herself to the foundational base upon which our consistently repeatable, powerful, low maintenance swing must be built.

Gerry_Lager

Apr 02, 2022

for one thing, without a ball in front of you your swing could be totally different. With that said..

1) at the 14 second mark in the face on view. your left knee moves away from the target. If this happens it's an indication your weight is not loading on your lead leg.

2) in the down the line view. A couple things. in the downswing your trail knee moves in. There's a video from @Tom Saguto that shows what should happen with your trail knee. It should not bow in like that. It might be an indication of over rotation or rotating too early.

3) you might have a bit of early extension. i.e. standing up a bit too early, that could cause a flip of the wrist and thus closing up the club face.

Julian

Apr 01, 2022

Thanks Tom! After I've had a few weeks to ingrain the initial drills, I plan to submit a baseline video for your V1 analysis.

Tom Saguto

Apr 01, 2022

@Julian ,

If you don't receive any replies over the weekend, feel free to tag some of the "regulars" who you see commenting on other posts here in the Video Analysis Room.

And no worries - you'll experience all sorts of weird and sideways shots during the initial phases of a swing change. It's absolutely normal!